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Acceptable, but overpriced for what they are
My favorite pair of pants is an old American made pair of Orvis rhinohide pants. Basically, a sort of sailcloth made into jeans. I don't like the dumb leathery bits, but I like the tough cloth and the good fit. Orvis, alas, outsourced their production to various third world places, and now their "rhinohide" is poorly fit, and made of garbage cloth. Someone told me these mountain khakis would be comparable items. Well, they're OK, but they're nowhere near as good.First off: these pants are made in China. Chinese made pants are not as good as American pants. They also make a big deal about somehow being based in Wyoming -nowhere is it mentioned on their website that these pants are made in China. American made is tough to find now a days, I know, but at this price point ... they really should be made in Wyoming.Second: the cloth may be 10 oz cloth, but it isn't what I would characterize as sturdy cloth. I haven't torn these pants, and hope not to since they cost me almost $80, but I'm less sure of them than I was of my orvis, filson or duluth firehose pants. It's just not that reassuring a fabric. No way I'd use these puppies working underneath my car, but I wouldn't have a problem with that with the other pants I mention, which I *have* worn working under a car without incident. I also wouldn't wear them while hunting: something I would and have done with those other pants.There are neat features: double thickness at the rear trouser leg (I guess some people wear out their pants there, though I fail to see how this will help much), an extra band of reinforcing fabric at the waistband (not sure what good this does, but it looks ... sturdy), triple stitching, and the crotch gusset is pretty helpful. They also look OK, though they're cut a bit high for what they are. The double-pocket on the right hand side is silly. The standard issue yellowstone color is useless for any kind of serious field work and is fairly ugly for anything else: the cloth attracts dirt and looks filthy after it collects a bit of dust.As for sizing: it's true in the waist, and long in the leg. In other words, if you're one of those fat bastards who think your Levis size is correct, add two inches to the waist measurement and subtract one from the length to get a proper fit with these pants. It's noteworthy that I have giant 26" powerlifting thighs and take a 33 or 34 waist, and these leave me plenty of room in the leg. If you're skinny, it's probably way too much room, but if you're muscular, they won't cut off your circulation.Do they look good? Meh. They're fairly tight in the butt for a pair of khakis, which I guess girls will like, but they're also high on the waist, which makes you look like a dork if you tuck your shirts in. Honestly, an average pair of dockers fits and looks better. I guess if you're some REI hiker dude, these pants will look good on you. If you're a clothes horse, they're going to migrate to the back of your pants drawer, both for the ugly color, the way they attract dirt, and the fact that they're not real useful for rugged use. Some people swear by 'em. I'm not buying another pair.
J**P
Chinese version inferior
I have many pairs of Mountain Khakis and the cambodian made pants are the best pants I have ever owned. I'm not sure if it's random that you get chinese versions or if it's that MK has changed their supplier to save on costs or what, but if you get the chinese version they are not nearly as fine. It actually makes a bigger difference with the corduroy MKs, but I'm returning a pair of MK Originals from the chinese maker now and I'm feeling frustrated. The cambodian originals that I'm wearing right now are absolutely fantastic. Perfectly sized, ruggedly triple stitched, incomparably comfortable and worth every penny. The chinese pants I am logged in to return are improperly sized, have subtle imperfections in stitching, are made of a slightly rougher though not heavier material and although they are still nice pants are not worth the premium price paid for MKs. Full disclosure I have no relationship with china or cambodia, but I've been disappointed with a couple pairs of pants and can't help commenting on the supplier as it apparently makes a big difference. If you have one pair you love and one pair that's not so good, take a look at where they're from. I'd be willing to wager many of the bad reviews are of the chinese version. It's a shame.
O**T
Great pants, odd sizing
I have been on the hunt for a substitute the Allagash Pants that used to be sold by a major outdoor clothing retailer from Maine. Sadly, they have been replaced by a vastly inferior product made of lightweight, flimsy material. These Mountain Pants are a worthy replacement made with the same heavy canvas material and with the same reserved styling, mid rise and most importantly, crotch gusset (which should be standard on all pants if you ask me) as the original Allagash.My only issue is the sizing on these seems off. I ordered the same size I wear in pretty much every other pants I have worn for years but when they arrived, they felt a size too small in the waist and a size too long in the inseam. I would suggest adjusting your order size accordingly.
S**A
mountain pants - too long
These are very well constructed pants, clearly made to last. I like that they are made in Canada and NOT China - hooray. But two major short-comings if I may say:: the length is way too long by at least 3", secondly they are really quite stiff - feels like they could stand up on their own. I really like the double pockets on the right side, great idea, also the reinforcement on back side of leg cuff area add to durability. the waist size is perfect.Final point the waist button is a bit to large for button hole making it very hard to open, especially in an emergency if you get my drift.
J**J
Sizing off.
My review pretty much agrees with others, the pants are well built and comfortable. However, the inseam is much longer than stated. I wear a 30" inseam and these are easily a 32-33", taking them up will prove difficult because of the extra material on the rear of the cuff. If I paid full retail I would send them back, but Amazon was almost half off, so okay. I gig MK 2 stars because of it.FWIW: I tried these on locally, the waist sizes are pretty true to fit vs. other brands that make you feel good, I would go up one size for waist comfort.
M**W
It seems like dry rot
I was a fan of Mountain Khakis, and often mentioned them as what I wear on several outdoor forums I belong to. I will no longer be recommending MK products. I have two pair of the OMP's and one pair of the shorts, each one has had the pocket material fall apart completely. It seems like dry rot, or very weak fabric, as it didn't rip at the seams, it simply fell apart.The latest pants to do so were the shorts, I have had them less than a year and they have only seen very light wear. I inserted my hand, gently, in a normal manner and I felt the right main pocket tear, heard an audible ripping noise, and my hand passed through to the hidden seam pocket material. It took no pressure at all, the fabric used in the pockets is defective and poor quality.I am very disappointed my three expensive pants are no longer useable. Cheap 5.11's last years longer.
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